I was on a job in Ontario California, near L.A., working six, ten hour days,
with one day off a week.
I was doing an electrical install on a new UPS shipping facility next to the
On my day off I could be found sitting around the pool, in the evening sun,
doing a bit of nothing but relaxing.
There was one individual that I noticed that was also enjoying sitting
around the pool and one day we ended up sitting within earshot of one
another and of course a conversation ensued.
Our conversation migrated to a topic we both had in common and that was
none other than the internet.
Turns out the gentleman, Rick Duris, was a copywriter and made his living
writing ad copy for business start-ups and the like on the internet.
I had been trying to come up with ways to make money with my computer and was interested in
everything Rick had to say.
One evening Rick and I had dinner at the Restaurant next door and he gave
me some words of wisdom along with a few of caution about the online
During the discussion, I was introduced to the Warrior Forum.
I will say that I was never really an active Warrior member aside from
reading question and answer posts that were relevant to what I was doing
at the time, but I can say that I always found the posts very informative and
Warrior Forum – Owners and Managers
Allen Says originally created The Warrior Forum in 1997.
He managed the forum through many changes and revisions but finally
sold his brainchild to Freelancer.com
Recently Gabriel Machuret was appointed as the “head” of Warrior.
Machuret is a self-proclaimed “leading ASO (App Store Optimization)
consultant in the world,” and has been in charge of the forum for a few
I would like to mention that Machuret maintains he is the “leader” of the
Warrior Forum, the Warrior team page lists Moss Pauly as “Head Of
Warrior Forum,” Daniel Silvestre as “Business & Community Manager,” and
Marcus Wong as “Head Of Partnerships & Marketing.”
I guess two heads really are better than one!… lol
Moss Pauly is the administrator and “Head” of Warrior Forum.
Moss is responsible for the re-direction of the forum. Moss will bring a data-
driven approach to making Warrior Forum a polished internet marketing
A place where warriors can share their knowledge and mentor new
warriors that continue to re-write what’s possible in internet marketing.
Marcus W K Wong heads up the business partnerships and the different
marketing aspects of Warrior Forum. Marcus has 8 years experience in the
Australian photographic and advertising Industry.
Marcus is responsible for establishing the Warrior Forum as the go-to place
for anything marketing with the net as the sole medium.
Daniel Silvestre is the Business and Community Manager with over 10 years
of experience in the industry.
Dan joined the Warrior Forum in 2008 and has been an active member ever
His responsibilities include leading the expansion of content, knowledge,
On The Inside
List of All the Current Forum Titles
- All Topics
- Internet Marketing Discussion Forum
- Search Engine Optimization
- Ad Networks
- Pay Per Click/Search Engine Marketing
- Email Marketing
- Growth Hacking
- Social Media
- Conversion Rate Optimization
- Offline Marketing
- Mobile Marketing
- eCommerce Sites
- Internet Marketing Product Reviews
- Mind Warriors
- Website Design
- Warrior Joint Ventures
- Off Topic Forum
- Local Meetups
- Warrior Forum News
- Warrior Forum Help
- Suggestion Forum
The Warriors question and answer sequence are very similar to the forum
like the dashboard on the Wealthy Affiliate where members that are logged
on can see questions being asked and offer an answer or reference in real
Here is a Quote from 2014 by Warrior Forum Founder Allen Says, “I started
Warrior Forum back in 1997 with the goal of creating a community of like-
minded internet marketers to share ideas, learn from each other and build
their online empires. In seventeen years our community has grown to over 730,000 members
strong making us the world’s largest Internet marketing forum.”
The Forum became a marketplace for buying and selling products and
services relating to internet marketing in many categories.
Warrior Forum is home to the War Room, a group of marketing specialists,
and is a paid feature. Warrior Special Offers (WSOs) set this forum apart
from other forums in that at one time anyone could put some information
together and sell it on the forum.
You know the story about the one bad apple…well imagine a bunch of bad
There are people that would say that the WSO feature rose The Forum to
stardom then took it down systematically to where it is now today, new
owners changing face and trying to improve the Warrior Brand.
WSO’s ( Warrior Special Offer )
The prices are the costs of placing a WSO on the forum.
The basic does not allow for repositioning your offer back to the top
( bump ) as do the other two with a sticky feature on the most expensive.
The Warrior Special Offer (WSO) feature was in its own right a
commendable platform that allowed some experienced and some not so
experienced members market to other members.
Anybody could put together a product, pay the entry fee, and get on the
platform and sell it.
The problem with the sort of anything-goes approach was that people
started promoting junk from ClickBank and there was some pretty average
products put on the platform and members began to complain.
Most of the time WSOs were just junk that would not make you any money.
Some with useful guides would be regurgitated information that could be
bought as part of other courses or had been discussed numerous times
before on blogs.
The offers that were actually unique, would still run the problem of not
having responsive support. As a guide, a few of them may have been OK
and worth $20.
Affiliates were burned as well because affiliates just starting out would
promote these average products being posted on Warrior.
Many products were also just information collected for free on the net then
fancied up with promotional graphics and sold to unsuspecting newcomers.
Of course, The Warrior was collecting the entry fees for these WSO’s and
was reluctant to rock the boat too much until it was too late and the forum
was starting to get bad reviews because of it.
On the other side of the creek, there are many marketers today that
attribute their success to The Warrior and their ability to log on, ask
questions about marketing, and get knowledgeable answers, as well as
product start-ups in the WSO section that was well-received and has
been said to have catapulted many entrepreneurs to multi-figure successes.
So Let’s say if your WSO is from 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, etc…. you would
need to create a new WSO.
This helps several areas:
- No more lengthy WSO’s
- Easy to find the latest WSO
- All WSO need to use new WSO layout
- Follow all terms and conditions including refund policy, payment system, and contact details.
There is information floating around the net about a revamping of the
warrior forum and specifically the WSO platform and how these offers are
made, by whom, and how they are excepted. Below is an announcement
post within WF.
This marketplace is the largest online marketing marketplace globally and
includes marketplaces for buying and selling products & services, websites,
domain names, hiring freelancers and advertising freelance services.
It also includes classified advertising and an affiliate program database.
Exclusive products and services available only at Warrior Forum.
Get deals on Internet Marketing Products, Services, Training and
other Offers at the “world’s largest Internet marketing marketplace.”
Below is the directory under the Market Place Tab in the dashboard:
- Warrior Special Offers
- The Underground
- Warriors for Hire
- Other Website Products & Services
- Wanted – Members looking to hire you
- Web Hosting Offers
- Affiliate Program Database
- Launch your WSO
The WSO section of the marketplace is now supposed to be 100% powered
by Warrior where WSO’s are supposed to be carefully selected, after an extensive
quality screening to guarantee only the best deals are offered.
I was at first under the assumption that the WSO offers were going to be
solely originating from the War Room but as the LAUNCH YOUR WSO link
can be found all through the forum, I am re-thinking this. The rules being
posted are a bit vague.
Additionally, only a limited number of products will be excepted at one time
and all of them in partnership with Warrior.
Also, the offers will have a time limit on the offers and be backed up by
Warrior which is supposed to rectify the problem they had with the money
back guarantee that merchants and affiliates were not honoring in the old
and ill reputed forum, again the reason behind the negative reviews.
So if your WSO is from 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, etc…. you need to create a
This serves a few points:
- No more insanely long WSO
- No more browsing and browsing pages to find the latest info of the WSO
- All new WSO need to use our Modern WSO layout (classic layout will not be approved)
- WSO needs to follow our terms and conditions including refund policy, payment system, and contact details.
The War Room – A Paid Feature
Price – $97 annually
The War Room is a private discussion group where marketers around the
world can share their experiences and learnings.
It’s a place where paid members can come and discuss anything and
everything included but not limited to:
- Strategies and tactics for making money online
- PPC advertising
- Product creation
Warrior Forum is world renowned for the War Room.
The War Room is a private discussion group where marketers around the
world share their experiences, positive and otherwise.
The War Room also offers training in various fields of marketing by people
known to be authorities in their fields of expertise and instruction.
I have since learned that it is the Underground section that is being referred
to as the new community offers marketplace.
The Underground, as it is labeled, is a section of Warrior where members
can sell products of about any origin to other members.
You do not have to be a paying member to sell within this feature.
As a matter of fact, this Underground feature is how the old WSO was run
and still has some similarities.
Here is Gabriel Machurets’ quote on the new Underground section of
Warrior and its similarities to the WSO feature of the past, He says:
“The Underground is the old wild west of the WSO or a marketplace where
we believe the offers promoted or listed don’t fit our quality standards and
we are not one hundred percent sure of the authenticity of the offers.”
“Brand new users insane claims of success, poor spelling, Low quality in the copy, income, etc.
Some of you have requested one hundred percent freedom to sell and
promote and to let you choose what you want to buy. In other words:
Leave us alone to choose what to buy or not.
On the other hand…
We also want to protect our users in a market that is regulated…but at the
same time, we understand that some users may want to have the option to
have access to a marketplace that is not moderated by us.
‘How I made one billion dollars while watching Games of Thrones and how
you can make the same amount in seventeen seconds or less.’
Well if you are looking for that type of deal…the Underground is for you.”
It sounds as though Gabriel is not so fond of the Underground and by his
quote, I would think he had nothing to do with its inclusion into the new
and improved Warrior.
I have scrolled through the Underground and have not found anything as
silly as Gabriel has suggested in his rendition of The Underground.
Really one of the reasons that I did not make the Warrior a go-to place for
me was the warnings that I received early on about the gurus that would
troll the forum and pick out users that were obviously inexperienced by
They would prey on these people with junk products, taking their money
with progressive schemes. With this being an ongoing problem,
management surely was aware of it but did nothing, till now of course.
However, doing this review, I have taken a hard look at the restructuring of
the Warrior and the establishments reported desire to resurrect the Warrior as an
“honest” place to hang out, learn and possibly find useful products.
If you are looking for a place to learn without the distraction of being
marketed to, then let me suggest taking a look at Wealthy Affiliate.
You will find an open and honest bunch of folks there all trying to
help each other learn and implement the positive marketing techniques
that are being taught in the lessons located within the platform.
Back to the warrior forum review:
I do not think that the restructuring is anywhere complete as I have had to
chase down conflicting stories and facts about this new and improved
The fact that they have two heads of operation listed in different places on
the net and that announcements seem to say one thing but the forum
reflects another, says to me that the restructuring is in one hand and that the
alleged managers are operating out of another hand, and they have
not landed on the same page…yet.
I would like to thank Rick Duris, the copywriter in Ontario California, for
the information he shared with me about affiliate marketing and for
making me aware of The Warrior Forum.
The name of Ricks website is Copy Ranger
I am sure that updates will come as I learn more about the Warrior and its
plan unfolds for a better forum.
Please if you have any questions or comments be so kind as to leave them in
the comments section of this website and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
All The Best